Just a note about this goats father, 6 Florida good ol' boys couldn't catch "jack", finally my wife tied up the mom who just went into heat, we stood her in the middle of a field with a leash. Jack came away from his pony buddies (he had stayed in a neighbor's field eating the pony food. Well...Jack raced across the field and sniffed and bit mom's sides, and finally mounted her. He was so pre-occupied, I was able to walk behind him, slip a rope around his neck and secure him for travel back to the rest of the goats. This was a goat who was un-touched by humans and never was able to be caight.